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If Wednesday was meh in several ways, that says nothing about today!

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@@ -412,15 +412,22 @@ In light of these _empirical_ observations, Yudkowsky's suggestion that an ignor
 
 Yudkowsky's pretension to merely have been standing up for the distinction between facts and policy questions isn't credible: if you _just_ wanted to point out that the organization of sports leagues is a policy question rather than a fact (as if anyone had doubted this), why would you throw in the "Aristotelian binary" strawman and belittle the matter as "humorous"? There are a lot of issues that I don't _personally_ care much about, but I don't see anything funny about the fact that other people _do_ care.
 
-(And in this case, the empirical facts are _so_ lopsided, that if we must find humor in the matter, it really goes the other way. Lia Thomas trounces the entire field by _4.2 standard deviations_ (!!), and world-class public intellectuals like Eliezer Yudkowsky feel obligated to _pretend not to see the problem?_ You've got to admit, that's a _little_ bit funny.)
+(And in this case, the empirical facts are _so_ lopsided, that if we must find humor in the matter, it really goes the other way. Lia Thomas trounces the entire field by _4.2 standard deviations_ (!!), and Eliezer Yudkowsky feels obligated to _pretend not to see the problem?_ You've got to admit, that's a _little_ bit funny.)
+
+[TODO—another example from the November 2018 thread—
+
+> I find the "(chromosomes?)" here very amusing. I am also a Yudkowskian, Eliezer; "female human" is a cluster in thingspace :)
+https://twitter.com/EnyeWord/status/1068983389716385792
+
+]
 
 [TODO outlining remainder of coda—]
 
-Still, having analyzed the _ways_ in which Yudkowsky is playing dumb on this issue, what's still not entirely clear is _why_. Presumably Yudkowsky cares about maintaining his credibility as an insightful and fair-minded thinker. Why tarnish that by putting out such blatantly one-sided propaganda? Of course, presumably he _doesn't_ think he's tarnishing it—but why not? [He explains in the Facebook comments](https://www.facebook.com/yudkowsky/posts/10159421750419228?comment_id=10159421833274228&reply_comment_id=10159421901809228):
+Still, having analyzed the _ways_ in which Yudkowsky is playing dumb on this issue, what's still not entirely clear is _why_. Presumably Yudkowsky cares about maintaining his credibility as an insightful and fair-minded thinker. Why tarnish that by putting out such blatantly one-sided propaganda [TODO: rephrase]? Of course, presumably he _doesn't_ think he's tarnishing it—but why not? [He explains in the Facebook comments](https://www.facebook.com/yudkowsky/posts/10159421750419228?comment_id=10159421833274228&reply_comment_id=10159421901809228):
 
 > it is sometimes personally prudent and not community-harmful to post your agreement with Stalin about things you actually agree with Stalin about, in ways that exhibit generally rationalist principles, especially because people do _know_ they're living in a half-Stalinist environment [...] I think people are better off at the end of that.
 
-Ah, personal _prudence_! He continues:
+Ah, _prudence_! He continues:
 
 > I don't see what the alternative is besides getting shot, or utter silence about everything Stalin has expressed an opinion on including "2 + 2 = 4" because if that logically counterfactually were wrong you would not be able to express an opposing opinion.
 

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@@ -20,6 +20,14 @@ Fit in somewhere—
 
 4 levels of intellectual conversation https://rationalconspiracy.com/2017/01/03/four-layers-of-intellectual-conversation/
 
+
+> But Twitter is at least not *ontologically confused* if they say that using preferred pronouns is courtesy, and claim that they're enforcing a courtesy standard. Replying "That's a lie! I will never lie!" is confused.
+https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1067302082481274880
+
+
+> Lying about atheism, in a conv about atheism, is defecting in a coop effort about atheism.
+https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1226605895091507200
+
 More Yudkowsky playing dumb—
 
 > What separates your stance from "I consider 'parmesan' to refer to only cheese from the Parma region in Italy and I don't appreciate being asked to lie"?
@@ -116,3 +124,5 @@ Since the Whole Dumb Story is longer and harder to write, I hope it's OK if I _b
 The Sequences taught me some really important things about sex differences and why not to take my cross-sex fantasies literally; I wrote about this in  ["Sexual Dimorphism in Yudkowsky's Sequences"](/2021/May/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-in-relation-to-my-gender-problems/)
 
 The ]
+
+https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/bounded-distrust

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@@ -53,6 +53,7 @@ _ Link: Quillette on Sons Becoming Daughters
 _ Link: Babylon Bee "It's a Good Life" parody https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20ALZgd6_Ek
 
 LW—
+_ Conflict Theory of Bounded Distrust: https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/bounded-distrust
 _ Steering Towards Agreement Is Like Discouraging Betting
 _ Generic Consequentialists Are Liars
 _ Comment on "The Logic of Indirect Speech" (multi-receivers vs. uncertainty about a single recieiver)