From: M. Taylor Saotome-Westlake Date: Wed, 31 May 2023 22:27:03 +0000 (-0700) Subject: memoir: bullet outline for "Roberta" crisis X-Git-Url: http://534655.efjtl6rk.asia/source?a=commitdiff_plain;h=0b5141949849e1352b52225cbc9c78a697a6c72d;p=Ultimately_Untrue_Thought.git memoir: bullet outline for "Roberta" crisis --- diff --git a/content/drafts/people-evolved-social-control-mechanisms-and-rocks.md b/content/drafts/people-evolved-social-control-mechanisms-and-rocks.md index a43c6f8..b626a71 100644 --- a/content/drafts/people-evolved-social-control-mechanisms-and-rocks.md +++ b/content/drafts/people-evolved-social-control-mechanisms-and-rocks.md @@ -726,9 +726,39 @@ She said she'd want to have a more detailed conversation about it before offerin ------ -[TODO: "Roberta" situation] +[TODO: "Roberta" situation + * Michael writes to me, not sure that I wanted to be notified, but that someone needs help along lines that match my focus and experience (Subject: Another autogynophilic rationalist is in a psych ward) + * Asks if we know anyone in Pittsburgh, any CMU EAs there to help, if needed could I visit + * Asks if I could provide the "attentive, active listening that would emotionally support someone in a high integrity agitated state where their ideas may not be literally true, and also may be true but hard to justify, but the ideas are at least honest metaphorical pointers at something that they think is there and needs to be recognized for safety" + * I post to Facebook: "Do I know (or know anyone who knows) any EA/rationalist folk in the vicinity of Pittsburgh, PA available to help with an Azkaban (psych ward) rescue mission? Not a joke." + * Lex (whose email From field still used deadname) starts information centralizing thread, got commited while trying to board a plane + * based on Google Maps, we started calling hosptials in the area + * we found reason to believe she was at Western Psychiatric Institute and Clinic of UPMC, in contrast to getting explicit denials from Sewickley Hospital (closest to airport but not there. Said he would not be able to tell me she was there if she was, but can tell me she is *not* there.), Forbes Regional, and Mercy Behavioral + * "UPMC presbyterian has a record of a devi borg. she was discharged. he said she was probably taken to western psych and recommended calling them" + * I called, still getting stonewalling + * "adding Devi's address to the thread so that she can look at it later and decide whether we deserve to be condemned for not being competent enough to rescue her faster" + * The next day, I call in the morning, and in the afternoon, Cathy keeps Glomar'ing me; I ask to speak to manager; manager Laura just left; I leave a voicemail message to patient's rights; I ask Scott if he can claim to be Devi's Magical Authority Figure (offer to bribe him) (Subject: "a plea to our inside man") + * I call again and get visiting hours and ask Chana to visit (offer to bribe her) (Subject: "a plea to our on-site woman (was: Re: a plea to our inside man)") + * I believe that they wrote a number down, but I don't believe that Devi actually got the opportunity to call; we're extracting our friends from the bowels on an unaligned AI + * Michael backchannels to me: "Exactly the right characterization Zack. I would tone it down right now but write these things down and we can discuss them after the fact." + * Scott: no point in me calling, agree with what you're doing + * I get angry at Scott for the "no meddle" suggestiong (Subject: "Re: in which gratitude and skepticism is expressed; and, a profit opportunity (was: Re: a plea to our on-site woman)") + * Steven on increasingly black-arts methods + * Lex: systems are corrupt, when even Scott writes about lacking the agency to not commit people who should not be committed + * Scott: accepts the bet, it's illegal to keep patients incommunicado + * I'm treating this as a kidnapping (Subject: "Hijack Innocent People And Abscond") + * I talk to Karen Robinson, the manager of patient relations, who is a Christian + * Lex says one of us might have to fly to Pittsburg; might think some of us are agents + * I ask for clarification, and clarification about name (I took off the trailing 'a' in the To: header) + * I concede the bet based on Chana's testimony + * Scott offers to nullify; I insist +] + +------ + +[TODO: starting to overheat] -[TODO: overheating in April, staying at Volterra, Hamilton purchase] +[TODO: staying at Volterra, Hamilton purchase] [TODO: BABSCon]