From: M. Taylor Saotome-Westlake Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2022 19:49:08 +0000 (-0700) Subject: drafting "Taxonomy Is"/check in X-Git-Url: http://534655.efjtl6rk.asia/source?a=commitdiff_plain;h=74b263271096db569be9b48bfae7b4f30f81f6f6;p=Ultimately_Untrue_Thought.git drafting "Taxonomy Is"/check in --- diff --git a/content/drafts/the-two-type-taxonomy-is-a-useful-approximation-for-a-more-detailed-causal-model.md b/content/drafts/the-two-type-taxonomy-is-a-useful-approximation-for-a-more-detailed-causal-model.md index 0972674..c37695a 100644 --- a/content/drafts/the-two-type-taxonomy-is-a-useful-approximation-for-a-more-detailed-causal-model.md +++ b/content/drafts/the-two-type-taxonomy-is-a-useful-approximation-for-a-more-detailed-causal-model.md @@ -6,24 +6,27 @@ Status: draft A lot of people tend to balk when first hearing about the [two-type taxonomy of male-to-female transsexualism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanchard's_transsexualism_typology). What, one scoffs, you're saying _all_ trans women are exactly one of these two things? It seems at once both too simple and too specific. -In some ways, it's a fair complaint! Psychology is _complicated_; every human is their own unique snowflake. But it would be impossible to navigate the world using the "every human is their own unique _maximum-entropy_ snowflake" theory. In order to [compress our observations](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/mB95aqTSJLNR9YyjH/message-length) of the world we see, we end up distilling our observations into categories, clusters, diagnoses, taxons: no one matches any particular clinical-profile stereotype _exactly_, but [the world makes more sense when you have language for theoretical abstractions](https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/ontology-of-psychiatric-conditions) like ["comas"](https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/11/does-the-glasgow-coma-scale-exist-do-comas/) or "depression" or "bipolar disorder"—or "autogynephilia". +In some ways, it's a fair complaint! Psychology is _complicated_; every human is their own unique snowflake. But it would be impossible to navigate the world using the "every human is their own unique _maximum-entropy_ snowflake" theory. In order to [compress our observations](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/mB95aqTSJLNR9YyjH/message-length) of the world we see, we end up distilling our observations into categories, clusters, diagnoses, [taxons](https://lorienpsych.com/2020/10/30/ontology-of-psychiatric-conditions-taxometrics/): no one matches any particular clinical-profile stereotype _exactly_, but [the world makes more sense when you have language for theoretical abstractions](https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/ontology-of-psychiatric-conditions) like ["comas"](https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/11/does-the-glasgow-coma-scale-exist-do-comas/) or "depression" or "borderline personality disorder"—or "autogynephilia". Concepts and theories are good to the extent that they can "pay for" their complexity by making more accurate predictions. How much complexity is worth how much accuracy? Arguably, it depends! General relativity has superceded Newtonian classical mechanics as the ultimate theory of how gravity works, but if you're not dealing with velocities approaching the speed of light, Newton still makes _very good_ predictions: it's pretty reasonable to still talk about Newtonian gravitation being "true" if it makes the math easier on you, and the more complicated math doesn't give appreciably different answers to the problems you're interested in. Moreover, if relativity hasn't been invented yet, it makes sense to stick with Newtonian gravity as the _best_ theory you have _so far_, even if there are a few anomalies [like the precession of Mercury](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_general_relativity#Perihelion_precession_of_Mercury) that it struggles to explain. -The same general principles of reasoning apply to psychological theories—although, tragically, +The same general principles of reasoning apply to psychological theories, even though psychology is a much more difficult subject matter and our available theories are correspondingly much poorer and vaguer. There's no way to make precise quantitative predictions about a human's behavior the way we can about the movements of the planets, but we still know _some_ things about humans, which get expressed as high-level generalities that nevertheless admit many exceptions: if you don't have the complicated true theory that would account for everything, then simple theories plus noise are better than _pretending not to have a theory_. As you learn more, you can try to refine more complicated theories that explain some of the anomalies that looked like "noise" to the simpler theory. +What does this look like for psychological theories? +[If a category seems to come into types, you can reify those as separate sub-categories, like bipolar I and II. The idea that there's something to the idea that bipolar I and II are "different", is s] +[In the case of male-to-female transsexualism, straight and gay trans women seem different. Many authors agree to this simple story! e.g., Veale, Vitale, possibly Serano 2020 —but they have different detailed theories as to how the two clusters come about—the simple story is a useful approximation even if you don't know how to pin down the more detailed story] -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causal_graph +[I think I do have a pretty good guess at what's going on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causal_graph ] ![transition causal graph](/images/transition_dag.svg) Let me explain. -[the taxonomy can emerge as a shorthand for a complicated causal graph] + [What are the reasons transitioning could possibly make sense to someone?—] diff --git a/notes/a-hill-of-validity-sections.md b/notes/a-hill-of-validity-sections.md index 8d4f747..6344732 100644 --- a/notes/a-hill-of-validity-sections.md +++ b/notes/a-hill-of-validity-sections.md @@ -720,4 +720,12 @@ https://www.foxylists.com/etiquette > 6. Do not ask for additional pictures, selfies or services they have not already agreed upon. > One nice thing about intellectuals is that when they turn, they frequently leave behind a detailed, mostly coherent record of what a person turning into a rhinoceros thinks is going on. -https://twitter.com/ben_r_hoffman/status/1477733825702936581 \ No newline at end of file +https://twitter.com/ben_r_hoffman/status/1477733825702936581 + +Rationality was supposed to be important!! + +Paul says so— +> My current sense is that cooperation has a better tradeoff than some forms of enhancement (e.g. giving humans bigger brains) and worse than others (e.g. improving the accuracy of people's and institution's beliefs about the world). + +Rob says so, too— +> Help ourselves think more clearly. (I imagine this including a lot of trying-to-become-more-rational, developing and following relatively open/honest communication norms, and trying to build better mental models of crucial parts of the world.) diff --git a/notes/notes.txt b/notes/notes.txt index 3b096c4..6cd89e4 100644 --- a/notes/notes.txt +++ b/notes/notes.txt @@ -3090,3 +3090,5 @@ https://ovarit.com/o/GenderCritical/78939/a-few-thoughts-on-being-radfem-gc-whil https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/79i5q5/i_have_no_clue_what_to_do_daughter_cant_get_the/ https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-53-autogynephilia-michael-bailey/ + +Aella's cateogry exposition is very good: https://aella.substack.com/p/what-a-woman-is diff --git a/notes/post_ideas.txt b/notes/post_ideas.txt index 0ad17f1..10c660e 100644 --- a/notes/post_ideas.txt +++ b/notes/post_ideas.txt @@ -1,14 +1,14 @@ -2022 significant posts— - +Urgent/needed for healing— +_ The Two-Type Taxonomy Is a Useful Approximation for ... _ A Hill of Validity in Defense of Meaning + +Big posts— _ Book Review: Charles Murray's Facing Reality: Two Truths About Race in America _ Trans Kids on the Margin, and Harms From Misleading Training Data - Minor— _ GPT-3 guest post _ my medianworld: https://www.glowfic.com/replies/1619639#reply-1619639 -_ The Two-Type Taxonomy Is a Useful Approximation for ... _ Happy Meal diff --git a/notes/trans-kids-on-the-margin-notes.md b/notes/trans-kids-on-the-margin-notes.md index 202735e..723ed31 100644 --- a/notes/trans-kids-on-the-margin-notes.md +++ b/notes/trans-kids-on-the-margin-notes.md @@ -507,4 +507,6 @@ https://www.facebook.com/groups/2264685517005985/posts/3513322952142229/ https://jessesingal.substack.com/p/a-swedish-investigative-journalist -https://www.transgendertrend.com/childhood-social-transition/ \ No newline at end of file +https://www.transgendertrend.com/childhood-social-transition/ + +I'm still a Wells Fargo customer because my father got my a savings account for me in 1992, when I was four years old—I just never bothered to switch