From: M. Taylor Saotome-Westlake Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 17:56:51 +0000 (-0800) Subject: memoir: bullet notes of Boston–New York trip X-Git-Url: http://534655.efjtl6rk.asia/source?a=commitdiff_plain;h=9630af911b797feb8349065262e499498e91679d;p=Ultimately_Untrue_Thought.git memoir: bullet notes of Boston–New York trip I hadn't previously thought of including this, but reviewing the transcript of my conversation with Scott about "Vassarite" danger reminded me of it, and it feels like it adds "color" to the story, revealing information about real life that people don't ordinarily write about? --- diff --git a/content/drafts/agreeing-with-stalin-in-ways-that-exhibit-generally-rationalist-principles.md b/content/drafts/agreeing-with-stalin-in-ways-that-exhibit-generally-rationalist-principles.md index 4207fe5..b0860f8 100644 --- a/content/drafts/agreeing-with-stalin-in-ways-that-exhibit-generally-rationalist-principles.md +++ b/content/drafts/agreeing-with-stalin-in-ways-that-exhibit-generally-rationalist-principles.md @@ -793,7 +793,35 @@ What's _not_ fine is selective argumentation while claiming "confidence in [your ------ -In October 2021, Jessica Taylor [published a memoir about her experiences at MIRI](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/MnFqyPLqbiKL8nSR7/my-experience-at-and-around-miri-and-cfar-inspired-by-zoe), making analogies between sketchy social pressures she had experienced in the core rationalist community (around short AI timelines, secrecy, deference to community leaders, _&c._) and those reported in [Zoe Cramer's recent account of Leverage Research](https://medium.com/@zoecurzi/my-experience-with-leverage-research-17e96a8e540b). +[TODO: Boston–New York visit + + * worked on "Challenges" and my Charles Murray review from Boston + + * saw an escort, who I found in the "ebony" section of eros.com + * who I'll call ... (which wasn't the name she used, and the name she used was surely not her real name) + * she finally got back to me just in time for me to go to the bank and get cash, there not being Wells Fargo branches on the east coast (speaking of decisions my father made for me when I was four years old) + * she was very late; we went to an Indian restaurant and then to my hotel + * an opportunity to talk to someone who I wouldn't ordinarily otherwise (messaging someone like her on match.com would have felt fake, paying for her time felt more "honest") + * I explained AGP to her + * I didn't let her/have her touch my penis (that seemed "unethical" according to my own sense of ethics, though I'm not super-confident that my "ethics" didn't make things weirder for her); I just wanted to touch + * I wasn't coming; she said that for $2K, I definitely deserved to get off + * she said I could have her breasts, they were heavy + * my comment about how I wished I could have a photograph, but that it would be rude to ask; she said "No", and I wanted to clarify that I didn't ask, I said I wished I _could_ ask—but, you see, her culture didn't support that level of indirection; the claim that I wasn't asking, would seem dishonest + * I didn't tell her about the Charles Murray book review I was writing + + * met my NRx Twitter mutual, wore my Quillette shirt + * he had been banned from Slate Star Codex "for no reason" + * he offered to buy me a drink, I said I didn't drink, but he insisted that being drunk was the ritual for how men establish trust, so I had a glass and a half of wine + * it was so refreshing—not being constrained + * I explained the AI risk case; he mentioned black people having larger wingspan + + * met Ben and his new girlfriend; Jessica wasn't around; he said the psych disaster was a betrayal, but a finite one; Ben's suggestion that if CfAR were serious, they'd hire me + +] + +------ + +In October 2021, Jessica [published a memoir about her experiences at MIRI](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/MnFqyPLqbiKL8nSR7/my-experience-at-and-around-miri-and-cfar-inspired-by-zoe), making analogies between sketchy social pressures she had experienced in the core rationalist community (around short AI timelines, secrecy, deference to community leaders, _&c._) and those reported in [Zoe Cramer's recent account of Leverage Research](https://medium.com/@zoecurzi/my-experience-with-leverage-research-17e96a8e540b). Scott Alexander posted a comment "add[ing] some context [he thought was] important to this", essentially blaming Jessica's problems on her association with Michael Vassar, describing her psychotic episode as a "Vassar-related phenomenon" (!). diff --git a/notes/memoir-sections.md b/notes/memoir-sections.md index a29c4cc..86af8a3 100644 --- a/notes/memoir-sections.md +++ b/notes/memoir-sections.md @@ -2,6 +2,7 @@ marked TODO blocks— - social justice and defying threats [pt. 5] - Jessica's experience at MIRI and CfAR [pt. 5] _ last email and not bothering him [pt. 5] +_ New York visit [pt. 5] _ "Unnatural Categories Are Optimized for Deception" [pt. 4] _ the Death With Dignity era [pt. 5] _ scuffle on "Yes Requires the Possibility" [pt. 4] @@ -55,6 +56,7 @@ it was actually "wander onto the AGI mailing list wanting to build a really big With internet available— +_ escort photo comment _ love to know some positive integer number of plans _ "not hard to find": link to more /r/itsafetish-like anecdotes _ compile ancillary KP doctor's notes page and linky @@ -190,6 +192,7 @@ _ Katie (pseudonym choice) _ Alicorn: about privacy, and for Melkor Glowfic reference link _ hostile prereader (April, J. Beshir, Swimmer, someone else from Alicorner #drama) _ Kelsey (briefly) +_ NRx Twitter bro _ maybe SK (briefly about his name)? (the memoir might have the opposite problem (too long) from my hostile-shorthand Twitter snipes) marketing—