From: M. Taylor Saotome-Westlake Date: Sat, 13 May 2023 00:30:41 +0000 (-0700) Subject: memoir: read some 2017 email and orient to milestone X-Git-Url: http://534655.efjtl6rk.asia/source?a=commitdiff_plain;h=c8954096f6e92fb615d9576795a19633d20eb271;p=Ultimately_Untrue_Thought.git memoir: read some 2017 email and orient to milestone --- diff --git a/content/drafts/people-evolved-social-control-mechanisms-and-rocks.md b/content/drafts/people-evolved-social-control-mechanisms-and-rocks.md index 3807e7e..c3b0d73 100644 --- a/content/drafts/people-evolved-social-control-mechanisms-and-rocks.md +++ b/content/drafts/people-evolved-social-control-mechanisms-and-rocks.md @@ -561,40 +561,38 @@ I feared violence from the other inmates. I thought I could subtly leave clues t ----- -[TODO Vassar - * 22–23 February — +[TODO: interacting with the outpatient program] + +[TODO I interact more with Vassar + * 22–23 February— * he asks for my phone number * I messed up by revealing secret info to Michael (I can say _that_ I messed up a secret, without revealing what the secret was) * Michael says that he can easily keep committments; "I'm not being sloppy and accidentally defecting against the generalized optimization for secrecy, I'm actively at war with it." * 28 February "Re: You're really bad at communicating!", nonprofit suggestion * "I really think that fill documentation of your experience would be maximum leverage for your time"— my reply, "Too narcissitic!" (oops!) * Between my checking and brokerage account, I have ~$97K to play with - + * "rationalist community health check?? asking for one bit of advice" + * going through a "Having a nervous breakdown, suddenly understanding all the things Michael has been trying to tell me for eight years that I didn't understand at the time, and subsequently panicking and running around yelling at everyone because I'm terrified of the rationalist community degenerating into just another arbitrary Bay Area humanist cult when we were supposed to be the Second Scientific Revolution" phase of my intellectual development + * nice people doing their jobs + 7 March— > As I recall, at the time, I was thinking that people may know far less or far more than I might have previously assumed by taking their verbal behavior literally with respect to what I think words mean: people have to gently test each other before really being able to speak the horrible truth that might break someone's self-narrative (thereby destroying their current personality and driving them insane, or provoking violence). I thought that you and Anna might be representatives of the "next level" of scientists guarding the human utility function by trying to produce epistemic technology within our totalitarian-state simulation world, and that I was "waking up" into that level by decoding messages (e.g., from the Mike Judge films that you recommended) and inferring things that most humans couldn't. reply— > What you were thinking is about right I think. But we still know that animals sleep. -[another happy price offer to Yudkowsky on 2 March -> That makes sense. Sorry for being boring; I'm kind of going through a "Having a nervous breakdown, suddenly understanding all the things Michael has been trying to tell me for eight years that I didn't understand at the time, and subsequently panicking and running around yelling at everyone because I'm terrified of the rationalist community degenerating into just another arbitrary Bay Area humanist cult when we were supposed to be the Second Scientific Revolution" phase of my intellectual development. Hopefully this is not too socially-disruptive! Michael said he thinks I'm doing good work?? ] ] -[28 February, I email Blanchard/Bailey/Hsu/Lawrence] - - +[TODO: 28 February, I email Blanchard/Bailey/Hsu/Lawrence] [emailed Gunni on 26 Feb (still haven't gotten that inteview, 5 years later?!)] - [Blanchard Tweets my blog "again" on 3 March] - 12 March— > You can tell that recent life events have made me more worried than I used to be about unFriendly/unaligned possibly-AI-assisted institutions being a threat to humane values long before an actual AI takeoff in however many decades - ------- On 12 March 2017, I made a Facebook post trying to explain my new outlook: @@ -611,8 +609,7 @@ I decided to quit my dayjob. I had more than enough savings to take some months At standup meeting on my last day, I told my coworkers that I was taking a sabbatical from my software engineering career to become a leading intellectual figure of the alternative right. That was a joke (ironically using the label "alt-right" to point to my break with liberal orthodoxy), although after the [Charlottesville incident](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally) later that year, I would look back at that moment with a little bit of [shame](http://benjaminrosshoffman.com/guilt-shame-and-depravity/) at how the joke hits differently in retrospect. -/2017/Jun/memoirs-of-my-recent-madness-part-i-the-unanswerable-words/ -[TODO: ... continue harvesting email to see what happened in April] - -[TODO: credit assignment ritual ($18200 credit-assignment ritual): $5K to Michael, $1200 each to "Chaya", 3 care team members (Alicorn Sarah Anna), Ziz, "Helen", and Sophia, $400 each to Steve, A.M., Watson, "Thomas", Jonah, James, Ben, Kevin, Alexei (declined), Andrew, Divia, Lex, Devi] +[TODO: credit assignment ritual ($18200 credit-assignment ritual): $5K to Michael, $1200 each to "Chaya", 3 care team members (Alicorn Sarah Anna), Ziz, "Helen", and Sophia, $400 each to Steve, A.M., Watson, "Thomas", Jonah, James, Ben, Kevin, Alexei (declined), Andrew, Divia, Lex, Devi +http://zackmdavis.net/blog/2017/03/friends-can-change-the-world-or-request-for-social-technology-credit-assignment-rituals/ +] diff --git a/notes/blanchards-dangerous-idea-email-review.md b/notes/blanchards-dangerous-idea-email-review.md index f10f2a4..c20f0a7 100644 --- a/notes/blanchards-dangerous-idea-email-review.md +++ b/notes/blanchards-dangerous-idea-email-review.md @@ -44,4 +44,3 @@ me— 4 Apr: "A Proposition"—2 day/wk Portal work?? 3 Apr: yelling at psych ward employees, bet with Scott 4 Apr: Chana reports in, I pay out the bet - diff --git a/notes/memoir-sections.md b/notes/memoir-sections.md index 2ab8e10..d26a01f 100644 --- a/notes/memoir-sections.md +++ b/notes/memoir-sections.md @@ -1,4 +1,21 @@ -unmarked TODO +TODO finish before I can vet and ship pt.s 1–3 +--------------- +_ "People ..." introduction +- finish existing 5150 scene scraps +_ integrate 5150 scene scraps into a coherent section +_ interacting with the outpatient program +_ emailing Blanchard/Bailey/Hsu/Lawrence/Cantor +_ security code drama?? ("Although, speaking of documenting" 2 March) +_ Vassar discourse +_ misc. March activities: asking Anna for promise, meeting Jessica, ordering DIY hormones, proposed credit-assignment ritual +_ "Roberta" situation +_ overheating in April, Hamilton purchase, BABSCon +_ "my call with Western Psychiatric's Manager of Patient Relations" +_ chat transcript relevant to War on Optimization for Generalized Secrecy +_ final credit assignment ritual +_ "Lenore" psychiatric disaster (not in pt.s 1–3, but I want this drafted before I hit Ben and Jessica) + +---------------- - Eliezerfic fight conclusion _ Michael Vassar and the Theory of Optimal Gossip @@ -20,7 +37,7 @@ _ Dolphin War finish bigger blocks— _ remaining Feb./Apr. 2017 recent madness -_ "Lenore" psychiatric disaster + ------ @@ -2511,4 +2528,30 @@ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/05/11/ai-pause-optimism-dune/ > > If this sounds optimistic, well, it is. But guarded optimism seems better than giving in to despondency or continuing to hunt for a pause button that isn’t there. -"Lenore" left a sleep mask; I looked it up, and it was cheap enough \ No newline at end of file +"Lenore" left a sleep mask; I looked it up, and it was cheap enough + +Re: Milo 4 March +> I was pretty afraid of racial violence during parts of my recent psychotic dreaming-while-awake epsiode. (I thought that kidnap-and-torture-whitey-in-a-basement race war might actually be common/typical, and that I hadn't noticed before due to some combination of the progressive constructed social reality bubble just being that strong and Friendly simulator protection, and that I needed to commit suicide before going to sleep to avoid having to experience my share of the kidnap-and-torturing personally, &c. I should probably write up the long version later.) + + +Re: Milo 4 March +> It's notable that Robert Heinlein's novels have some very strong AGP themes, but I'm not aware of any evidence that he actually did anything about it real life, whereas I, growing up 80 years later, am about to and feel like it's the right choice on reflection given my historically-anomalous developmental trajectory, even though it probably looks like ideologically-driven self-harm from the perspective of normal men. +> +> And you think that if the forces of political correctness win and "trans" becomes an entrenched cultural practice, that's like genociding future generations of Robert Heinlein analogues? Whereas from inside the trans-rights social-reality bubble, it looks like you're trying to genocide future generations of Julia Serano analogues. (Julia Serano is a prominent trans activist and author of one of the standard articles that get cited to try to "debunk" autogynephilia.) And from inside my Zack-M.-Davis-personal-eclectic-ideology-bubble, I want to rescue the Julia Serano aesthetic in a way that's compatible with knowledge of science and history. (Robert Heinlein was scientifically- and historically-literate, and Julia Serano is an ignorant ideologue, but Robert Heinlein was a manly man who was OK with being a manly man as his social identity and that's just not my style.) + +6 March— I order a pack of Spiro and Progynova from AllDayChemist + +7 March— (Subject: "Re: Sleep") +> Michael is _very smart_ in ways that I didn't used to understand and still don't understand, but I'm terrified of what the universe is going to do to me if I become too much like him + + +me— +> The parts where I felt like I was a very important person (in this simulation/Everett branch) and that people are plotting against me and that I'm receiving special simulator attention should be interpreted as standard manic-episode delusions of reference: lots of people feel just like that when they're excited and haven't gotten enough sleep; I'm just lucky that my delusions happen to take the form of maybe-nonterrible philosophy that maybe might play some relevant causal role in our world's Singularity, but that's not my department to worry about. Social reality may be crazy (hospitals are part of the state insofar as they serve the function of social-control in the service of stationary bandits, rather than actually being about trying to heal people), but I should still put a lot more weight on social reality (nice people are just doing their jobs trying to help) when the alternative is my intuition about the machines trying to kill me. + +Michael— +> I certainly put a lot less weight on 'nice people doing their jobs' then I do on 'six sigma processes homeostatic ally adjusting to dampen the variance in outputs that is their representation of me.', which is basically equivalent to 'these well documented machines, the ones they teach you about in business school, do the thing they do. 'Trying to kill' is what an anthropomorphized version of the process looks like from the inside. We have enough documentation to know about the nice people doing their jobs paradigm being untenable. + +me 9 March (Subject: "slowly coming around to you") +> Okay, maybe confusing and hurting the feelings of the nice people doing their jobs is actually acceptable collateral damage in the war against the control system. Or, not a war. An endeavor to map what the control system is in detail, and publish the map on the internet. + +