From: Zack M. Davis Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 06:53:21 +0000 (-0800) Subject: check in X-Git-Url: http://534655.efjtl6rk.asia/source?a=commitdiff_plain;h=cc86a628f55435ee36574ab72d3132febb6f80bb;p=Ultimately_Untrue_Thought.git check in --- diff --git a/notes/critical_acclaim.md b/notes/critical_acclaim.md index cd94a1a..fb33f52 100644 --- a/notes/critical_acclaim.md +++ b/notes/critical_acclaim.md @@ -214,3 +214,26 @@ https://twitter.com/adrusi/status/1681782160984883201 > where 2017-zack... was on a different level https://www.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/10w6r33/sequel_to_a_beloved_siskind_classic_from_a/ + +> The one guy in the Cthulhu cult who's sincerely devoted to resurrecting the dark god and ending the world, and is constantly angry and disappointed that the rest of the cult is just in it for the blood orgies and professional networking. +> +> Freddie deBoer. +> ---- +> I thought this was a tweet about Zack M Davis +https://twitter.com/Sesquame/status/1746360508482027853 + +https://twitter.com/halcyon_hazel/status/1747347608417267906 +> i have happened across a subgroup that would properly be termed as “male agp rationalists” and i want to claw my eyes out. can y’all be normal for five minutes?? +> do NOT tag him + +https://twitter.com/Ida_Clemens/status/1747347899116147017 +> oh no, that guy with the insane blog is just a *type* of guy??? + +https://twitter.com/halcyon_hazel/status/1747445721081495787 +> i’ll compliment him here!! that’s why i enjoy reading his stuff more than the other examples — he’s excruciatingly honest + +https://twitter.com/adrusi/status/1747390956159037508 +> idk. at one point, with the particular character i have in mind, i think it's pretty clear there was a lot of envy going on, but i think that's mostly in the past and now he's just like "eh ok, im cool w this" +> though i suspect there's something subtle going on where he's reluctant to believe when trans women tell him they differ from how how he describes his agp. a "it wouldn't be fair if it were so" playing out underneath the "i was so tempted to lie just like that and im demonstrably a better rationalist than they are" +> and i do think zd is a better rationalist than 95% of the transfems i know. at the hard parts, like having a reflexive aversion to self-deceit, evidenced by stuff unrelated to all this, even +> and a distinct level of care in his thought. i think he's wrong about some important things, but never bc of oversights diff --git a/notes/memoir-sections.md b/notes/memoir-sections.md index 377fe3f..faa942d 100644 --- a/notes/memoir-sections.md +++ b/notes/memoir-sections.md @@ -1,3 +1,8 @@ +Said revisions— + +"deliberately ambiguous" → "ambiguous for a reason" +923 words about bad faith + time-sensitive globals TODOs— ✓ apply pro edit pt. 4 ✓ section headers for pt. 4 @@ -20,50 +25,11 @@ _ apply pro edit pt. 5 _ bully Jeff Ladish _ #drama strategy session -_ Manifold: Will Yudkowsky reply to "Agreeing With Stalin in Ways That Exhibit Generally Rationalist Principles" in a way that a 2008 Overcoming Bias reader would consider non-evasive, as judged by Vaniver? - -_ ask Jimrandomh about attack times _ consult lc _ consult David Xu _ psychiatric disaster private doc -pt. 3 edit tier (auto edition)— -✓ FTX aside footnote version -✓ revert alphabet names (from 17638259f20) -✓ narcissistic delusions -✓ clarify that cheerful price history is with Anna specifically -✓ screenshot "pleading, snarky reply" -✓ GreaterWrong over Less Wrong for comment links -✓ return on cognitive investment -✓ establish usage of "coordination group" vs. "posse" (posse) -✓ do I have a better identifier than "Vassarite" -✓ log2 with an 'o' -✓ yank note about LW comment policy to top-level -✓ "Common Interest of Many Causes" and "Kolmogorov Complicity" offer directly contradictory strategies -✓ re-check wording of trans-kids-on-the-margin section -_ briefly speculate on causes of brain damage in footnote? -_ "consensus behavior" anti-school complaint could be stronger -------- -_ Ruby fight included ban threat, "forces of blandness want me gone ... stand my ground" remark -_ breakup song -_ being friends with dogs (it's good, but do I have the wordcount budget?) -_ mention that I was miffed about "Boundaries?" not getting Curated, while one of Euk's animal posts did -_ explicitly mention http://benjaminrosshoffman.com/bad-faith-behavior-not-feeling/ -_ meeting with Ray (6/29) -_ mention Said rigor check somewhere, nervousness about Michael's gang being a mini-egregore -_ I should respond to Ziz's charges that my criticism of concept-policing was a form of concept-policing -_ Anna's claim that Scott was a target specifically because he was good, my counterclaim that payment can't be impunity -_ maybe I do want to fill in a few more details about the Sasha disaster, conditional on what I end up writing regarding Scott's prosecution?—and conditional on my separate retro email—also the Zolpidem thing -_ the "reducing negativity" post does obliquely hint at the regression point being general -_ link to protest flyer -_ "it was the same thing here"—most readers are not going to see an obvious analogy (editor might catch?) -_ better explanation of MOPs in "Social Reality" scuffle (editor might catch?) -_ better context on "scam" &c. earlier (editor might catch?) -_ cut words from descriptions of other posts! (editor might catch?) -_ try to clarify Abram's categories view (Michael didn't get it) (but it still seems clear to me on re-read?) - - pt. 4 edit tier— ✓ "Ideology Is Not the Movement" mentions not misgendering ✓ mention Nick Bostrom email scandal (and his not appearing on the one-sentence CAIS statement) @@ -83,7 +49,7 @@ _ Sept. 2020 clarification noted that a distinction should be made between _ emphasize that 2018 thread was policing TERF-like pronoun usage, not just disapproving of gender-based pronouns _ https://cognition.cafe/p/on-lies-and-liars _ cite more sneers; use a footnote to pack in as many as possible -_ Dawkins and Jerry Coyne +_ Dawkins and Jerry Coyne and https://www.thefp.com/p/carole-hooven-why-i-left-harvard pt. 5 edit tier— @@ -2857,3 +2823,13 @@ What if, in addition to physical punishments and Detect Thoughts, Cheliax also h > One thing is sure, the path that leads to sanity and survival doesn't start with lies or with reasoning by Appeal to (Internal) Consequences. https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1743522277835333865 + +> To clarify a possibly misunderstood point: On my model, dath ilan's institutions only work because they're inhabited by dath ilani. Dath ilani invent good institutions even if they grow up in Earth; Governance on Earth lasts three days before Earth voters screw it up. +https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1565516610286211072 + +July 2023 +https://twitter.com/pawnofcthulhu/status/1680840089285582848 +> man i feel like the orthodox viewpoint on this has moved on from "let's define trans women as women" to like +> "arguing about metaphysics is boring; letting people chose pronouns as part of self-expression seems like a thing a free society should allow for the same reason we should let people choose clothes; for many social purposes trans women are in fact empirically women" + +(If your "moderately serious" plan for survival is ["AI research journals banned, people violating that ban hunted down with partial effectiveness"](https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1739705063768232070), that might be your least-bad option as a consequentialist, but one of the things your consequentialist calculation should take into account is that you've declared war on people who want to do AI science on Earth.) diff --git a/notes/notes.txt b/notes/notes.txt index 099f2e7..d7c0b9b 100644 --- a/notes/notes.txt +++ b/notes/notes.txt @@ -3385,3 +3385,20 @@ https://www.reddit.com/r/trans/comments/18vijfo/asked_my_friend_out_she_couldnt_ https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/18ygct1/is_autogynephillia_real/ https://ovarit.com/o/GenderCritical/526364/tims-in-r-lesbiangamers-outnumber-females-2-1 + +https://twitter.com/jmrphy/status/1746744905861345290 +> "Talking about your interests" with your wife is wayyy overhyped in the minds of single men seeking marriage. My wife is smart and I never talk to her about my interests. I talk to men about my interests (how it's been for thousands of years). + +https://twitter.com/LadyTetra777/status/1747381930507538451 +> Imma simplify all agp discourse. Ready? +> +> Me: AGP? Listen cis people, intellectualizing an experience won't give you that experience ⛔️ +> +> Me, staring at a full mirror: Yep, AGP is real 😌 + +https://twitter.com/extradeadjcb/status/1731503700353421315 +> My impression is that like religion, fecundity is a thing these people respect & see as extremely valuable if not essential - but it doesn't clear their personal cost-benefit calculus +> +> It's less that it has to be done in human ways, & more that it has to be done for human reasons + +Shannon Thrace appeals to the "principle of charity" and "steelmanning": https://twitter.com/ShannonThrace/status/1749609014982258933 So she is memetically downstream of us! 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